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	<title>Comments on: The Apollo Installation Experience</title>
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	<description>Flash-centric application and UI development.</description>
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		<title>By: Keith Ulrich</title>
		<link>http://pod6.com/blog_wp/2007/05/24/the-apollo-installation-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-19879</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Ulrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ve come to the right place, but here goes...

I just tried to install the brand new beta version of AIR on my Win2K machine.  First I uninstalled Apollo, and I checked my Task Manager to verify that it was gone.

Then I double-clicked the AIR installer executable (air_b1_win_061107.exe) and immediately got this error:  &quot;The procedure entry point AttachConsole could not be located in the dynamic link library KERNEL32.dll&quot;

Help!  And thanks in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ve come to the right place, but here goes&#8230;</p>
<p>I just tried to install the brand new beta version of AIR on my Win2K machine.  First I uninstalled Apollo, and I checked my Task Manager to verify that it was gone.</p>
<p>Then I double-clicked the AIR installer executable (air_b1_win_061107.exe) and immediately got this error:  &#8220;The procedure entry point AttachConsole could not be located in the dynamic link library KERNEL32.dll&#8221;</p>
<p>Help!  And thanks in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Goldman</title>
		<link>http://pod6.com/blog_wp/2007/05/24/the-apollo-installation-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-17045</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 05:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John posted the link that I intended to. Please do add it to the original post.

regards,
Oliver</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John posted the link that I intended to. Please do add it to the original post.</p>
<p>regards,<br />
Oliver</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Babcock</title>
		<link>http://pod6.com/blog_wp/2007/05/24/the-apollo-installation-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-16991</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Babcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 19:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John &gt;&gt;
I took the liberty of fixing the link in your post - thanks for the explanation.

Oliver &gt;&gt; 
The link is missing from the anchor tag in your post. I notice that you are the author of the explanation referenced by John above, if you would like me to add this link (or another one) to your post, let me know and I will do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John >><br />
I took the liberty of fixing the link in your post &#8211; thanks for the explanation.</p>
<p>Oliver >><br />
The link is missing from the anchor tag in your post. I notice that you are the author of the explanation referenced by John above, if you would like me to add this link (or another one) to your post, let me know and I will do so.</p>
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		<title>By: John C. Bland II</title>
		<link>http://pod6.com/blog_wp/2007/05/24/the-apollo-installation-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-16986</link>
		<dc:creator>John C. Bland II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 18:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brendan:
Apollo = Desktop. Silverlight = Browser. The comparison is Silverlight to Flash/Flex in the browser. (as Max pointed out)

@Craig:
You see the comparison you&#039;re making in your opening paragraph. Although you say you aren&#039;t it is definitely clear that your point is to showcase the install experience of both platforms. If not, they wouldn&#039;t be posted as a part 1 and 2. ;-)

Also, for an explanation of your issue: &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.adobe.com/simplicity/2007/05/dont_rename_that_msi.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.adobe.com/simplicity/2007/05/dont_rename_that_msi.html&lt;/a&gt;. That should help you see why there is a prob (seemingly Microsoft related). As was noted (by you and Mike), that was an Alpha. ;-) Things are getting better.

Hopefully your next &quot;install&quot; post will showcase a clean install (as I experienced; very slick).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brendan:<br />
Apollo = Desktop. Silverlight = Browser. The comparison is Silverlight to Flash/Flex in the browser. (as Max pointed out)</p>
<p>@Craig:<br />
You see the comparison you&#8217;re making in your opening paragraph. Although you say you aren&#8217;t it is definitely clear that your point is to showcase the install experience of both platforms. If not, they wouldn&#8217;t be posted as a part 1 and 2. <img src='http://pod6.com/blog_wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Also, for an explanation of your issue: <a href="http://blogs.adobe.com/simplicity/2007/05/dont_rename_that_msi.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.adobe.com/simplicity/2007/05/dont_rename_that_msi.html</a>. That should help you see why there is a prob (seemingly Microsoft related). As was noted (by you and Mike), that was an Alpha. <img src='http://pod6.com/blog_wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Things are getting better.</p>
<p>Hopefully your next &#8220;install&#8221; post will showcase a clean install (as I experienced; very slick).</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Goldman</title>
		<link>http://pod6.com/blog_wp/2007/05/24/the-apollo-installation-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-16979</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 16:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your installation experience on Windows was confounded by some unfortunate behavior in the Windows Installer. I&#039;ve written up a &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.adobe.com/simplicity/2007/05/dont_rename_that_msi.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;brief explanation&lt;/a&gt; of the problem and what we&#039;re doing to address it in the Apollo beta.

regards,
Oliver Goldman
Apollo Engineering
Adobe Systems Inc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your installation experience on Windows was confounded by some unfortunate behavior in the Windows Installer. I&#8217;ve written up a <a href="http://blogs.adobe.com/simplicity/2007/05/dont_rename_that_msi.html" rel="nofollow">brief explanation</a> of the problem and what we&#8217;re doing to address it in the Apollo beta.</p>
<p>regards,<br />
Oliver Goldman<br />
Apollo Engineering<br />
Adobe Systems Inc.</p>
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		<title>By: pod6 - SERENITY NOW! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Silverlight Installation Experience</title>
		<link>http://pod6.com/blog_wp/2007/05/24/the-apollo-installation-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-16875</link>
		<dc:creator>pod6 - SERENITY NOW! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Silverlight Installation Experience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 22:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] newest runtime/client technologies from Adobe and Microsoft - Apollo and Silverlight. Yesterday, in part one, I detailed my somewhat difficult, but ultimately successful, installation of Apollo. Today, I will [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] newest runtime/client technologies from Adobe and Microsoft &#8211; Apollo and Silverlight. Yesterday, in part one, I detailed my somewhat difficult, but ultimately successful, installation of Apollo. Today, I will [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chiverton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Chiverton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 10:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I will attempt to install Silverlight. Wish me luck&quot;
I needed it ! When I tried to install it it told me to use a browser I don&#039;t have on an operating system I won&#039;t use :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I will attempt to install Silverlight. Wish me luck&#8221;<br />
I needed it ! When I tried to install it it told me to use a browser I don&#8217;t have on an operating system I won&#8217;t use <img src='http://pod6.com/blog_wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Craig Babcock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Babcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 08:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike,

I can see why you might view this as an apples and oranges comparison. But, it really isn&#039;t my intention to draw comparisons between the two products. My perspective is not that of an organization with a defined business objective, seeking the best solution for my needs. Rather, I am approaching this as a professional developer looking to familiarize myself with a pair of new technologies that may or may not (ever) be ready for primetime. I need to be able to advise my clients if and when a particular solution is viable and understand what it takes to implement it. As for Apollo and Silverlight, I have chosen to start at the beginning – installation. Given that I tried (and failed) to successfully install either one the first time around, I felt that it might be worth while to make a more concerted effort and document the process for both.

It is not a competition and I have no intention of scoring or declaring a winner ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike,</p>
<p>I can see why you might view this as an apples and oranges comparison. But, it really isn&#8217;t my intention to draw comparisons between the two products. My perspective is not that of an organization with a defined business objective, seeking the best solution for my needs. Rather, I am approaching this as a professional developer looking to familiarize myself with a pair of new technologies that may or may not (ever) be ready for primetime. I need to be able to advise my clients if and when a particular solution is viable and understand what it takes to implement it. As for Apollo and Silverlight, I have chosen to start at the beginning – installation. Given that I tried (and failed) to successfully install either one the first time around, I felt that it might be worth while to make a more concerted effort and document the process for both.</p>
<p>It is not a competition and I have no intention of scoring or declaring a winner <img src='http://pod6.com/blog_wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Maz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 07:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basically Silverlight is browser based whereas Apollo has its own  desktop platform... So I guess you should pick one of those : WPF, XULRunner, JavaFX...

I have some of them bubbled in that : http://blog.bubble-mind.com/public/bmind_Webtechno.jpg

{Maz}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically Silverlight is browser based whereas Apollo has its own  desktop platform&#8230; So I guess you should pick one of those : WPF, XULRunner, JavaFX&#8230;</p>
<p>I have some of them bubbled in that : <a href="http://blog.bubble-mind.com/public/bmind_Webtechno.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://blog.bubble-mind.com/public/bmind_Webtechno.jpg</a></p>
<p>{Maz}</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 04:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike:
What is up with that? Why can&#039;t people realize that Apollo doesn&#039;t go to the same school as Silverlight? It seems just  so damned obvious that Silverlight and Flash are twins separated at birth (and that just one of them got their Superpowers - you pick which!).

Apollo doesn&#039;t have many peers for comparison - who would you pick?

Brendan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike:<br />
What is up with that? Why can&#8217;t people realize that Apollo doesn&#8217;t go to the same school as Silverlight? It seems just  so damned obvious that Silverlight and Flash are twins separated at birth (and that just one of them got their Superpowers &#8211; you pick which!).</p>
<p>Apollo doesn&#8217;t have many peers for comparison &#8211; who would you pick?</p>
<p>Brendan</p>
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